fatvegan

I don't understand that passage it all. Why would God think it's disgraceful for a women to speak in church? It doesn't make any sense.

I reckon the uniqueness stuff is a copout. People can't suggest that women are unable to lead worship, because women manage it all the time in other churches. So it's not about the "natural abilities" of each sex (whatever that means). If women just weren't very good at preaching, then it would say "women aren't very good at preaching" instead of saying it's disgraceful for them to do it.

But apparently it's disgraceful for women to talk in church. People opposed to women preachers should admit that they're really opposed because the bible says it's wrong. The "uniqueness" thing is just something they say to make it more palatable, but I don't reckon the bible supports it.

It reminds me of a the bit in the Quran where Mohammed says that women shouldn't ever be seen by anyone but their husbands. They found out that he put that in just after he'd seen some other guy's wife nude, and got worried that other men would see his wives.

Maybe Paul was preaching at church, and his wife embarassed him by asking him a really tricky Old Testament question. So he went home and wrote in the bible "[if women] want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home, and not in front of the whole church so Paul gets embarrassed in front of everyone". Then he told his wife to go read her bible, because he'd found a passage that backed up his point. Later he took out the references to himself, just to help out other preachers with smart-alec wives.

Oh dear. That was cynical. One tick for the book.